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Posted: 26 April 2006 at 1:00pm

cdcSamira, u have just skipped the other Facts i mentioned, All u saw was gold, That proves how much Women like Gold Kidding.

What else u call Rights? Let them Be uncloth on Beachs? Or All West Rights for Women you are talking about?

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Posted: 26 April 2006 at 1:02pm

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cdcSamira, good to know that you will not defend yourself when someone comes to take your land away; too bad you are not in the Israeli path, they'd be delighted to know people like you -- your argument is void because this is not about what violence does and does not; this is about labeling every freedom fighter a terrorist in order to break him.

There’s no such thing as compromise, Kayyam, HAMAS are a resistance fighters; like it or not, approve of it or not.

I’m still waiting for MBJ to point that one resistance group that’s not being labeled terrorist in Middle East - good luck.

People that oppose Hamas are simply Israeli supporters; don’t lie to yourself.

Bravo Exactly.

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Posted: 26 April 2006 at 1:02pm

Brother, you are wrong. I am an advocate of Peace and Tolerance. Without these two things, then there will never be Peace on Earth, NEVER!

There was a war in Rwanda for many years, where more than a million were killed because they were either Hutis or Tutsis. When will the cultural differences distinguish and the acknowledgement of us being just HUMAN beings.

Violence will not bring anything. Ghandi got Indian independence without Violence, as did Martin Luther King. The black panthers were terrorist to many and freedom fighters to others, as their bombings, etc killed innocent people... BUt we all know the history of today... VICTORY OVER VIOLENCE came through at the end of the day.

The best thing for HAMAS to do is govern correctly and thoroughly. Insinuating more violence and upheavals to maintain your power is just reckless.

The Majority Israelis and Palestinians want PEACE over VIOLENCE.

I'm not a supporter of anyone, ONLY PEACE and TOLERANCE!

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Posted: 26 April 2006 at 1:07pm

Well, unlike you, I’m a supporter of the Palestinians at all costs; Israeli's on other hand, can go fly a kite.

I could careless for PEACE B.S examples and B.S references, PEACE is for the weak people that can be stepped on; PEACE is for fools that want to remain under control.

Peace is a fragment of your imagination; PEACE will not bring back Shiekh Yassin.

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Posted: 26 April 2006 at 1:09pm

Even if Lets us we think this way.. THE OTHERS WONT! And the Result will be, We will get killed Screaming for Peace Peace and Peace.

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Posted: 26 April 2006 at 1:11pm

Originally posted by Deserves2Die

cdcSamira, u have just skipped the other Facts i mentioned, All u saw was gold, That proves how much Women like Gold Kidding.

What else u call Rights? Let them Be uncloth on Beachs? Or All West Rights for Women you are talking about?

I see that you can only look at the situation with blinders on as you are a man!

BTW, the GOLD Comment was quite funny , but I am not materialistic! It was brought up, because all men always provide that excuse.

Women are worse than the East Asians, philipino walking the streets in that country. As you know, many Saudi Arabs do not take keen to those. What are women rights in Marriage? Forced! Property, chattle! C'est tout! What are women rights according to them upon divorce? Their children are taken away from them! What women rights in violent marriages? Mere, nothing! Not until one woman went on television with her bruises were her husband Jailed! Beatings are allowed and mere weapon to put them in submission! Honor killings go unnoticed. Can I drive without my only male son of 6 or 8 years driving me?! lol, of course not.

There are many, many, many more, but why explain something of this matter to someone that already know truth, but want to cover it up.

Do you know your country? Do you know what's going on behind that Inlarged Veil covering it?

I really dislike fabrications.

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Posted: 26 April 2006 at 1:14pm

Ok, guys, I leave you to your thoughts.

I'm exiting!

Inshallah, there's hope for the next generation!

Peace, love, and happiness.

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Posted: 26 April 2006 at 1:20pm

It would surprise you But im not a Saudi, Im a Paki! And Well, You ended the Topic urself. So as a Gentleman i should reciet ur Words and Withdraw

Inshallah, there's hope for the next generation!

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Posted: 26 April 2006 at 4:55pm

The Muslim Brotherhood, they have denounced political violence and no longer engage in acts of terrorism to convey a political message in Egypt.

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Posted: 26 April 2006 at 5:00pm

You are kidding yourself, only.

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Posted: 26 April 2006 at 5:02pm

Shia have gained political rights in Saudi Arabia, Shia in the last three years have the right to construct Shia mosque, the right to publish and distribute Shia literature, but this has not come without a price. Shia have received death threats and harassment from Saudi Sunnis, the sectarianism in Iraq is now slowly creeping into Saudi Arabia. Saudi Arabia's oil wealth lies on Shia land, but the Shia are largely confined to unemployment and mud huts while the Sunnis in Jedda and Riyadh enjoy the country's import wealth.

Edited by SayTheLordIsOne - 26 April 2006 at 5:03pm

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Posted: 26 April 2006 at 5:04pm

The Muslim Brotherhood is the most well-organized political opposition to Mubarak, though their candidates must run for office as independents.

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Posted: 26 April 2006 at 5:08pm

Muslim brotherhood is not a resistance fighter group - they are strictly political (again we are talking in present not what they once did).

Hizbullah, Hamas, which according to your twisted American administration, are terrorist organizations, but to many millions and me they are resistance fighters.

Name one resistance fighters group that’s not labeled terrorist.

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Posted: 26 April 2006 at 6:31pm

To me Hezbollah is a resistance Lebanese militia who engages in terrorism.

Same thing with Hamas, I agree with their social welfare programs, but I think they need to learn the art of political compromise and negotiation. They are powerless, the Israelis control the chips.

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Poll Question: If you are a Muslim, who is your favorite Muslim head of state?
Poll Choice	Votes	Poll Statistics
Hamid Karzai	1	[10.00%]
Mahmoud Ahmadinejad	1	[10.00%]
Mahmoud Abbas	0	[0.00%]
Tayyip Erdogan	4	[40.00%]
Hosni Mubarak	2	[20.00%]
King Hussein	2	[20.00%]
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Deserves2Die Mureed Location: Saudi Arabia Religion: Islam(Muslim) Posts: 4250 Forum Rating: 128	Rating: 0 of 0 votes Posted: 26 April 2006 at 1:00pm
	cdcSamira, u have just skipped the other Facts i mentioned, All u saw was gold, That proves how much Women like Gold Kidding. What else u call Rights? Let them Be uncloth on Beachs? Or All West Rights for Women you are talking about?
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Deserves2Die Mureed Location: Saudi Arabia Religion: Islam(Muslim) Posts: 4250 Forum Rating: 128	Rating: 0 of 0 votes Posted: 26 April 2006 at 1:02pm
	*Originally posted by NEWUSER* cdcSamira, good to know that you will not defend yourself when someone comes to take your land away; too bad you are not in the Israeli path, they'd be delighted to know people like you -- your argument is void because this is not about what violence does and does not; this is about labeling every freedom fighter a terrorist in order to break him. There’s no such thing as compromise, Kayyam, HAMAS are a resistance fighters; like it or not, approve of it or not. I’m still waiting for MBJ to point that one resistance group that’s not being labeled terrorist in Middle East - good luck. People that oppose Hamas are simply Israeli supporters; don’t lie to yourself. Bravo Exactly.
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cdcSamira Senior Member Location: United States Religion: Islam(Muslim) Posts: 660 Forum Rating: 0	Rating: 0 of 0 votes Posted: 26 April 2006 at 1:02pm
	Brother, you are wrong. I am an advocate of Peace and Tolerance. Without these two things, then there will never be Peace on Earth, NEVER! There was a war in Rwanda for many years, where more than a million were killed because they were either Hutis or Tutsis. When will the cultural differences distinguish and the acknowledgement of us being just HUMAN beings. Violence will not bring anything. Ghandi got Indian independence without Violence, as did Martin Luther King. The black panthers were terrorist to many and freedom fighters to others, as their bombings, etc killed innocent people... BUt we all know the history of today... VICTORY OVER VIOLENCE came through at the end of the day. The best thing for HAMAS to do is govern correctly and thoroughly. Insinuating more violence and upheavals to maintain your power is just reckless. The Majority Israelis and Palestinians want PEACE over VIOLENCE. I'm not a supporter of anyone, ONLY PEACE and TOLERANCE!
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NEWUSER Undergraduate Religion: Unknown(Unknown) Posts: 1615 Forum Rating: 0	Rating: 0 of 0 votes Posted: 26 April 2006 at 1:07pm
	Well, unlike you, I’m a supporter of the Palestinians at all costs; Israeli's on other hand, can go fly a kite. I could careless for PEACE B.S examples and B.S references, PEACE is for the weak people that can be stepped on; PEACE is for fools that want to remain under control. Peace is a fragment of your imagination; PEACE will not bring back Shiekh Yassin.
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Deserves2Die Mureed Location: Saudi Arabia Religion: Islam(Muslim) Posts: 4250 Forum Rating: 128	Rating: 0 of 0 votes Posted: 26 April 2006 at 1:09pm
	Even if Lets us we think this way.. THE OTHERS WONT! And the Result will be, We will get killed Screaming for Peace Peace and Peace.
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cdcSamira Senior Member Location: United States Religion: Islam(Muslim) Posts: 660 Forum Rating: 0	Rating: 0 of 0 votes Posted: 26 April 2006 at 1:11pm
	*Originally posted by Deserves2Die* cdcSamira, u have just skipped the other Facts i mentioned, All u saw was gold, That proves how much Women like Gold Kidding. What else u call Rights? Let them Be uncloth on Beachs? Or All West Rights for Women you are talking about? I see that you can only look at the situation with blinders on as you are a man! BTW, the GOLD Comment was quite funny , but I am not materialistic! It was brought up, because all men always provide that excuse. Women are worse than the East Asians, philipino walking the streets in that country. As you know, many Saudi Arabs do not take keen to those. What are women rights in Marriage? Forced! Property, chattle! C'est tout! What are women rights according to them upon divorce? Their children are taken away from them! What women rights in violent marriages? Mere, nothing! Not until one woman went on television with her bruises were her husband Jailed! Beatings are allowed and mere weapon to put them in submission! Honor killings go unnoticed. Can I drive without my only male son of 6 or 8 years driving me?! lol, of course not. There are many, many, many more, but why explain something of this matter to someone that already know truth, but want to cover it up. Do you know your country? Do you know what's going on behind that Inlarged Veil covering it? I really dislike fabrications.
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cdcSamira Senior Member Location: United States Religion: Islam(Muslim) Posts: 660 Forum Rating: 0	Rating: 0 of 0 votes Posted: 26 April 2006 at 1:14pm
	Ok, guys, I leave you to your thoughts. I'm exiting! Inshallah, there's hope for the next generation! Peace, love, and happiness.
	Teaching is the profession that creates other professions! Aquarius (the sign of Ages): Friendly and humanitarian Honest and loyal Original and inventive Independent and intellectual
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Deserves2Die Mureed Location: Saudi Arabia Religion: Islam(Muslim) Posts: 4250 Forum Rating: 128	Rating: 0 of 0 votes Posted: 26 April 2006 at 1:20pm
	It would surprise you But im not a Saudi, Im a Paki! And Well, You ended the Topic urself. So as a Gentleman i should reciet ur Words and Withdraw Inshallah, there's hope for the next generation! Peace, love, and happiness.
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SayTheLordIsOne Senior Member Location: United States Religion: Islam(Muslim) Posts: 304 Forum Rating: 0	Rating: 0 of 0 votes Posted: 26 April 2006 at 4:55pm
	The Muslim Brotherhood, they have denounced political violence and no longer engage in acts of terrorism to convey a political message in Egypt.
	"To be the best Muslim is to be a good American, and to be the best American is to be Islamic. Both paradigms, the overtly Islamic and the traditionalist American, are the same." -Robert Crane
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NEWUSER Undergraduate Religion: Unknown(Unknown) Posts: 1615 Forum Rating: 0	Rating: 0 of 0 votes Posted: 26 April 2006 at 5:00pm
	You are kidding yourself, only.
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SayTheLordIsOne Senior Member Location: United States Religion: Islam(Muslim) Posts: 304 Forum Rating: 0	Rating: 0 of 0 votes Posted: 26 April 2006 at 5:02pm
	Shia have gained political rights in Saudi Arabia, Shia in the last three years have the right to construct Shia mosque, the right to publish and distribute Shia literature, but this has not come without a price. Shia have received death threats and harassment from Saudi Sunnis, the sectarianism in Iraq is now slowly creeping into Saudi Arabia. Saudi Arabia's oil wealth lies on Shia land, but the Shia are largely confined to unemployment and mud huts while the Sunnis in Jedda and Riyadh enjoy the country's import wealth. Edited by SayTheLordIsOne - 26 April 2006 at 5:03pm
	"To be the best Muslim is to be a good American, and to be the best American is to be Islamic. Both paradigms, the overtly Islamic and the traditionalist American, are the same." -Robert Crane
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SayTheLordIsOne Senior Member Location: United States Religion: Islam(Muslim) Posts: 304 Forum Rating: 0	Rating: 0 of 0 votes Posted: 26 April 2006 at 5:04pm
	The Muslim Brotherhood is the most well-organized political opposition to Mubarak, though their candidates must run for office as independents.
	"To be the best Muslim is to be a good American, and to be the best American is to be Islamic. Both paradigms, the overtly Islamic and the traditionalist American, are the same." -Robert Crane
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NEWUSER Undergraduate Religion: Unknown(Unknown) Posts: 1615 Forum Rating: 0	Rating: 0 of 0 votes Posted: 26 April 2006 at 5:08pm
	Muslim brotherhood is not a resistance fighter group - they are strictly political (again we are talking in present not what they once did). Hizbullah, Hamas, which according to your twisted American administration, are terrorist organizations, but to many millions and me they are resistance fighters. Name one resistance fighters group that’s not labeled terrorist.
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SayTheLordIsOne Senior Member Location: United States Religion: Islam(Muslim) Posts: 304 Forum Rating: 0	Rating: 0 of 0 votes Posted: 26 April 2006 at 6:31pm
	To me Hezbollah is a resistance Lebanese militia who engages in terrorism. Same thing with Hamas, I agree with their social welfare programs, but I think they need to learn the art of political compromise and negotiation. They are powerless, the Israelis control the chips.
	"To be the best Muslim is to be a good American, and to be the best American is to be Islamic. Both paradigms, the overtly Islamic and the traditionalist American, are the same." -Robert Crane
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