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Posted: 06 June 2006 at 3:58pm

I have nothing againts jews, and i respect everyone and i try to understand everyone even if we don't have the same conception of life.

But I'm sorry, i cannot tolerate murderers

the slaves of the All-Merciful are those who walk lightly on the earth and who, when the ignorents speak to them, say "peace"

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Posted: 06 June 2006 at 4:57pm

Shalom,

I am glad that you have nothing against Jews, but not all Israelis are murderers. My mother lives in Israel and she has never hurt anyone.

Shalom, Elijah Ben-Zion

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Posted: 06 June 2006 at 5:01pm

Originally posted by Ben-Zion

Shalom,

I am glad that you have nothing against Jews, but not all Israelis are murderers. My mother lives in Israel and she has never hurt anyone.

Shalom, Elijah Ben-Zion

And the vast, vast majority of Palestinians haven't either.

Learn about the Mercy of Allah!

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Posted: 06 June 2006 at 5:06pm

Shalom,

I know that, I never said all Palestinians are Murderers. There are plenty who just want to live in peace, same goes for the Majority of Israelis.

Shalom, Elijah Ben-Zion

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Posted: 06 June 2006 at 5:14pm

Shalom,

Speaking of Boycotts, I read an article that the Turkish President is boycotting Hamas.

Originally posted by Hürriyet

During his visit to Israel, Turkish President Ahmet Necdet Sezer will also make a trip to Palestine, where it has been declared that he will not be meeting with HAMAS Prime Minister Haniye. Neither will President Sezer take a minister to meet up with any ministers from the HAMAS government. President Sezer, unlike the AKP (Justice and Development Party) Government, has taken the decision not to meet members of the newly founded HAMAS government. Sezer will also travel to Palestine during his formal visit to Israel from June 6-9, 2006. Sezer turned down the HAMAS Prime Minister, Ismail Haniye’s request for a meeting during his visit to Palestine.
http://www.hurriyet.com.tr/english/4524923.asp?gid=74

Does anyone else find this to be strange? Isn't Turkey an Islamic nation? Why then is the President boycotting Hamas?

Shalom, Elijah Ben-Zion

Edited by Ben-Zion - 06 June 2006 at 5:16pm

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Posted: 06 June 2006 at 5:23pm

Does anyone else find this to be strange? Isn't Turkey an Islamic nation? Why then is the President boycotting Hamas?

Lol...typical of Turkey. So much of an Islamic nation, which does not allow its citizens a right to practice their religion, a religion that the country claims to follow.

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Posted: 06 June 2006 at 5:30pm

What do you expect from a country named after a sandwich.

Waiting an eternity for an apology from one who never apologizes but always demands one.

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Posted: 06 June 2006 at 5:39pm

lol

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Posted: 06 June 2006 at 8:27pm

Originally posted by scruggnut

What do you expect from a country named after a sandwich.

scrugg , u nutter

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Posted: 06 June 2006 at 8:31pm

Originally posted by Noor_Islam

assalamu alaikum

as a muslim and as a humain being, I feel feel concerded about poverty in Africa, I feel concerned about the hundreds of thousands of Children who are dying in Palestine, in Irak and in all over the world. All the world problems make me feel so sick. If ppl would swallow their self respect and pride, maybe the world will be more peaceful.

With the boycott, i'm triyin to do smth. I'm conviced by its power.

thnx for starting this thread sis, I do boycott all of these companies Inshallah and to say they are not at all affected ( like ben zionist says) is nonsense so all muslims should boycott them

totally agree with your above post
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Posted: 07 June 2006 at 5:26am

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I have nothing againts jews, and i respect everyone and i try to understand everyone even if we don't have the same conception of life.
But I'm sorry, i cannot tolerate murderers

i find it strange how you say you cannot tolerate 'murder' (highly questionable use of the word) of palestinains by jews, yet you dont seem to be outraged by the definate murder of jews by some palestinians prepared to indescriminately blow up themselves and others, or the muslim on muslim violence and genocide taking place in parts of africa and iraq

of course you claim you are concerned about it - but why dont you do something about those things rather than just targetting jews

you are reinforcing the notion that anti semitism is deeply ingrained in the mindset of islam

but please answer a question - how do you see the palestinian problem being resolved, do you want israel to coexiist with palestinians (possibly by dividing the country) or do you want to remove israel altogether - and if so - how would you resettle the jews

and as to your comment that the worlds problems make you sick - if i had to face the real possibility of myself and my family being blown up by suicide bombers, that would be a problem, but you dont seem to be concerned with that ...

perhaps you are, but your silly boycott suggests that the blame lies solely on one side, which gels with the persistent bleating of muslims trhat the west is waging a war on islam, when it is clearly obvious that there is an islamic movement (not all muslims i clarify) that has openly declared war on the west

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Posted: 07 June 2006 at 5:28am

Originally posted by scruggnut

D2d....it seems as if both sides, the jews and the muslims; can't bear each other in their lives. Until i came to this forum....i never knew the extent with which the 2 sides hated each other. I don't mean that every muslim hates every jew, or vice versa; but the predominent and overwhelming sentiment i get, is that the 2 machines, the "jews", and the "muslims"....hate each other and will continue to hate each other whether or not israel stays or goes.

In this case, hatred runs like blood through many veins.

And both sides seem to have made themselves into the "victim" regardless of what happens.

Jews can take someones land, yet the jews are the ones who are the victims....radical islamic muslims can blow innocent people up, yet muslims cry that they are the "victim".

It's silliness. Get over feeling sorry for yourselves, both parties....and please, please, stop the us versus them mentality.

You really dissapointed me here... I wish you could see any other channel too.. Israeli Troops Kill more than 3 Palestinian Every day, Every Day Scrugnut. Palestine Issue is the only cause of Disturbance in the Whole World and Only and Only Jews are Responsible for it. Very Brilliantly Jews are using Christains against Muslims. I really request you should see other Channels as well Scrugg, any Non American and Non Israeli channel.

So I wouldnt be dissapointed if you'll call me an Anti-Peace fellow but the Truth is that there cant be Peace, Becoz the Whole World knows Jews taking over a Muslim Land illegally (Following footsteps of their Jewish Forefathers) and Muslims of Palestine would never Surrender becoz of the Aqsa Mosque and Jews would never Stop trying to have it at any Cost. Infact why America is helping Israel? Just to get rid of them, Becoz America is a Country who allowed Jews to live and to take Part in the Government issues, So now Americans (Christains) are Tired of them and want them to go "HOME".

There is no solution of this Problem at Long Terms.

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Posted: 07 June 2006 at 5:29am

Originally posted by scruggnut

What do you expect from a country named after a sandwich.

hahaha You...

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Posted: 07 June 2006 at 5:41am

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Palestine Issue is the only cause of Disturbance in the Whole World

are you kidding? or are you simply retarded?

what about all the violence in africa? is that down to the jews?

again - i state that you are reinforcing the idea that antsemitism is ingrained in the hearts of many muslims

i was reading a recent post regarding the caliphate - the caliphate presumedly expanded by invasion and conquering and seizing other peoples lands, all land originally 'belonged' to someone else, so do you think that this muslim colonisation was bad, or do you only reserve you vitriol for non-muslims?

do you think israel should cease to exist or do you favour coexistence ?

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Noor_Islam Freshman Location: Tunisia Religion: Islam(Muslim) Posts: 16 Forum Rating: 0	Rating: 0 of 0 votes Posted: 06 June 2006 at 3:58pm
	I have nothing againts jews, and i respect everyone and i try to understand everyone even if we don't have the same conception of life. But I'm sorry, i cannot tolerate murderers
	the slaves of the All-Merciful are those who walk lightly on the earth and who, when the ignorents speak to them, say "peace"
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Ben-Zion Graduate Location: United States Religion: Unknown(Unknown) Posts: 2037 Forum Rating: 0	Rating: 0 of 0 votes Posted: 06 June 2006 at 4:57pm
	Shalom, I am glad that you have nothing against Jews, but not all Israelis are murderers. My mother lives in Israel and she has never hurt anyone. Shalom, Elijah Ben-Zion
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hamayoun Admin Group The Humble Muslim WhyIslam Forum Amir Religion: Islam(Sunni) Posts: 6451 Forum Rating: 0	Rating: 0 of 0 votes Posted: 06 June 2006 at 5:01pm
	*Originally posted by Ben-Zion* Shalom, I am glad that you have nothing against Jews, but not all Israelis are murderers. My mother lives in Israel and she has never hurt anyone. Shalom, Elijah Ben-Zion And the vast, vast majority of Palestinians haven't either.
	Learn about the Mercy of Allah!
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Ben-Zion Graduate Location: United States Religion: Unknown(Unknown) Posts: 2037 Forum Rating: 0	Rating: 0 of 0 votes Posted: 06 June 2006 at 5:06pm
	Shalom, I know that, I never said all Palestinians are Murderers. There are plenty who just want to live in peace, same goes for the Majority of Israelis. Shalom, Elijah Ben-Zion
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Ben-Zion Graduate Location: United States Religion: Unknown(Unknown) Posts: 2037 Forum Rating: 0	Rating: 0 of 0 votes Posted: 06 June 2006 at 5:14pm
	Shalom, Speaking of Boycotts, I read an article that the Turkish President is boycotting Hamas. *Originally posted by Hürriyet* During his visit to Israel, Turkish President Ahmet Necdet Sezer will also make a trip to Palestine, where it has been declared that he will not be meeting with HAMAS Prime Minister Haniye. Neither will President Sezer take a minister to meet up with any ministers from the HAMAS government. President Sezer, unlike the AKP (Justice and Development Party) Government, has taken the decision not to meet members of the newly founded HAMAS government. Sezer will also travel to Palestine during his formal visit to Israel from June 6-9, 2006. Sezer turned down the HAMAS Prime Minister, Ismail Haniye’s request for a meeting during his visit to Palestine. http://www.hurriyet.com.tr/english/4524923.asp?gid=74 Does anyone else find this to be strange? Isn't Turkey an Islamic nation? Why then is the President boycotting Hamas? Shalom, Elijah Ben-Zion Edited by Ben-Zion - 06 June 2006 at 5:16pm
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Islamaholic Graduate Location: United Kingdom Religion: Islam(Muslim) Posts: 2557 Forum Rating: 0	Rating: 0 of 0 votes Posted: 06 June 2006 at 5:23pm
	Does anyone else find this to be strange? Isn't Turkey an Islamic nation? Why then is the President boycotting Hamas? Lol...typical of Turkey. So much of an Islamic nation, which does not allow its citizens a right to practice their religion, a religion that the country claims to follow. peace
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scruggnut Mureed Location: Canada Religion: Unknown(Unknown) Posts: 3914 Forum Rating: 0	Rating: 0 of 0 votes Posted: 06 June 2006 at 5:30pm
	What do you expect from a country named after a sandwich.
	Waiting an eternity for an apology from one who never apologizes but always demands one.
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Islamaholic Graduate Location: United Kingdom Religion: Islam(Muslim) Posts: 2557 Forum Rating: 0	Rating: 0 of 0 votes Posted: 06 June 2006 at 5:39pm
	lol
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saira Graduate Religion: Islam(Muslim) Posts: 2923 Forum Rating: 0	Rating: 0 of 0 votes Posted: 06 June 2006 at 8:27pm
	*Originally posted by scruggnut* What do you expect from a country named after a sandwich. scrugg , u nutter
	Our Lord! You truly know all that we may hide [in our hearts] as well as all that we bring into the open, for nothing whatever, be it on earth or in heaven, remains hidden from Allah (14:3
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saira Graduate Religion: Islam(Muslim) Posts: 2923 Forum Rating: 0	Rating: 0 of 0 votes Posted: 06 June 2006 at 8:31pm
	*Originally posted by Noor_Islam* assalamu alaikum as a muslim and as a humain being, I feel feel concerded about poverty in Africa, I feel concerned about the hundreds of thousands of Children who are dying in Palestine, in Irak and in all over the world. All the world problems make me feel so sick. If ppl would swallow their self respect and pride, maybe the world will be more peaceful. With the boycott, i'm triyin to do smth. I'm conviced by its power. thnx for starting this thread sis, I do boycott all of these companies Inshallah and to say they are not at all affected ( like ben zionist says) is nonsense so all muslims should boycott them totally agree with your above post saira
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jdjd Senior Member Location: United Kingdom Religion: Atheist(Atheist) Posts: 338 Forum Rating: 0	Rating: 0 of 0 votes Posted: 07 June 2006 at 5:26am
	quoting: I have nothing againts jews, and i respect everyone and i try to understand everyone even if we don't have the same conception of life. But I'm sorry, i cannot tolerate murderers i find it strange how you say you cannot tolerate 'murder' (highly questionable use of the word) of palestinains by jews, yet you dont seem to be outraged by the definate murder of jews by some palestinians prepared to indescriminately blow up themselves and others, or the muslim on muslim violence and genocide taking place in parts of africa and iraq of course you claim you are concerned about it - but why dont you do something about those things rather than just targetting jews you are reinforcing the notion that anti semitism is deeply ingrained in the mindset of islam but please answer a question - how do you see the palestinian problem being resolved, do you want israel to coexiist with palestinians (possibly by dividing the country) or do you want to remove israel altogether - and if so - how would you resettle the jews and as to your comment that the worlds problems make you sick - if i had to face the real possibility of myself and my family being blown up by suicide bombers, that would be a problem, but you dont seem to be concerned with that ... perhaps you are, but your silly boycott suggests that the blame lies solely on one side, which gels with the persistent bleating of muslims trhat the west is waging a war on islam, when it is clearly obvious that there is an islamic movement (not all muslims i clarify) that has openly declared war on the west
	jd
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Deserves2Die Mureed Location: Saudi Arabia Religion: Islam(Muslim) Posts: 4250 Forum Rating: 128	Rating: 0 of 0 votes Posted: 07 June 2006 at 5:28am
	*Originally posted by scruggnut* D2d....it seems as if both sides, the jews and the muslims; can't bear each other in their lives. Until i came to this forum....i never knew the extent with which the 2 sides hated each other. I don't mean that every muslim hates every jew, or vice versa; but the predominent and overwhelming sentiment i get, is that the 2 machines, the "jews", and the "muslims"....hate each other and will continue to hate each other whether or not israel stays or goes. In this case, hatred runs like blood through many veins. And both sides seem to have made themselves into the "victim" regardless of what happens. Jews can take someones land, yet the jews are the ones who are the victims....radical islamic muslims can blow innocent people up, yet muslims cry that they are the "victim". It's silliness. Get over feeling sorry for yourselves, both parties....and please, please, stop the us versus them mentality. You really dissapointed me here... I wish you could see any other channel too.. Israeli Troops Kill more than 3 Palestinian Every day, Every Day Scrugnut. Palestine Issue is the only cause of Disturbance in the Whole World and Only and Only Jews are Responsible for it. Very Brilliantly Jews are using Christains against Muslims. I really request you should see other Channels as well Scrugg, any Non American and Non Israeli channel. So I wouldnt be dissapointed if you'll call me an Anti-Peace fellow but the Truth is that there cant be Peace, Becoz the Whole World knows Jews taking over a Muslim Land illegally (Following footsteps of their Jewish Forefathers) and Muslims of Palestine would never Surrender becoz of the Aqsa Mosque and Jews would never Stop trying to have it at any Cost. Infact why America is helping Israel? Just to get rid of them, Becoz America is a Country who allowed Jews to live and to take Part in the Government issues, So now Americans (Christains) are Tired of them and want them to go "HOME". There is no solution of this Problem at Long Terms.
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Deserves2Die Mureed Location: Saudi Arabia Religion: Islam(Muslim) Posts: 4250 Forum Rating: 128	Rating: 0 of 0 votes Posted: 07 June 2006 at 5:29am
	*Originally posted by scruggnut* What do you expect from a country named after a sandwich. hahaha You...
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jdjd Senior Member Location: United Kingdom Religion: Atheist(Atheist) Posts: 338 Forum Rating: 0	Rating: 0 of 0 votes Posted: 07 June 2006 at 5:41am
	qu: Palestine Issue is the only cause of Disturbance in the Whole World are you kidding? or are you simply retarded? what about all the violence in africa? is that down to the jews? again - i state that you are reinforcing the idea that antsemitism is ingrained in the hearts of many muslims i was reading a recent post regarding the caliphate - the caliphate presumedly expanded by invasion and conquering and seizing other peoples lands, all land originally 'belonged' to someone else, so do you think that this muslim colonisation was bad, or do you only reserve you vitriol for non-muslims? do you think israel should cease to exist or do you favour coexistence ?
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